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Most countries talk about digital trust. Estonia engineered it. Joseph Carson has spent 23 years living through Estonia's digital transformation from the inside. He and Mo get into what it actually takes to build trust at a national scale, what Estonia got right, where it went wrong, and what the rest of the world is still figuring out. Joseph is also bringing the full story to RSA Conference 2026 with his session "From Cyber War to a Digital Nation: Estonia's Playbook for Resilience."
Meet the guest
Joseph Carson
Joseph Carson is an award-winning cybersecurity leader with 30+ years of experience securing enterprises, governments, and critical infrastructure worldwide. As Chief Security Evangelist and Advisory CISO at Segura, he helps organizations adopt identity-first, resilient security strategies. He’s the author of Cybersecurity for Dummies, a frequent industry speaker, and host of the Security by Default podcast.
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