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Making Sense of AI: Trust, Scale, and the Human Role
Curiosity might be our most important security tool. In the first episode of Curiouser & Curiouser, Mo Sadek sits down with longtime security leader Julie Tsai to explore AI, security, and the human judgment that still matters most. Together, they cut through hype and fear to talk about what’s actually changing, what isn’t, and how we build systems we can truly trust.
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Julie Tsai is a CISO-in-Residence at Ballistic Ventures, board member of the Bay Area CSO Council, and cybersecurity leader for AI Insiders. A six-time CISO and SecDevOps specialist, she’s led security at organizations ranging from startups to Fortune 1 companies, including Roblox, WalmartLabs, and Box. Julie advises startups, teaches cybersecurity, and focuses on using AI and DevSecOps to build stronger, more responsible security practices.
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Curiosity might be our most important security tool. In the first episode of Curiouser & Curiouser, Mo Sadek sits down with longtime security leader Julie Tsai to explore AI, security, and the human judgment that still matters most. Together, they cut through hype and fear to talk about what’s actually changing, what isn’t, and how we build systems we can truly trust.
Julie Tsai is a CISO-in-Residence at Ballistic Ventures, board member of the Bay Area CSO Council, and cybersecurity leader for AI Insiders. A six-time CISO and SecDevOps specialist, she’s led security at organizations ranging from startups to Fortune 1 companies, including Roblox, WalmartLabs, and Box. Julie advises startups, teaches cybersecurity, and focuses on using AI and DevSecOps to build stronger, more responsible security practices.
Mo Sadek is a security researcher with over a decade of experience in incident response and security operations. At Alice, he helps teams navigate AI and risk through a practical, practitioner-led lens and hosts Curiouser & Curiouser, a podcast about trust, security, and the human side of technology.
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