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AI Governance Needs a Dungeon Master

Guest: David Wendt, PhD
Host: Mo Sadek. Technical Marketing Director, Alice
EP 08 - MAX 2026
AI Governance Needs a Dungeon Master

Episode description

David Wendt has spent 30 years building models and just as long running D&D campaigns. Turns out both taught him the same things about operating in uncertainty. He joins Mo to talk AI governance at enterprise scale, what real red teaming looks like, and why the smarter move is to stop measuring your AI and start measuring what you actually care about.

Meet the guest

Headshot of David Wendt, Manager of Innovation and AI Governance at Sherwin-Williams

David Wendt, PhD

Manager, Innovation and AI Governance at Sherwin-Williams

David Wendt helps executives, innovators, and tech leaders turn uncertainty about AI into actionable trust and clarity. With 30+ years guiding Fortune 100/200 organizations through strategic change, he blends systems thinking, storytelling, and practical frameworks to make AI governance accessible and impactful.

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