Understanding AI, Risk,
and the Future
The essential podcast for innovators, leaders, and curious minds who want to navigate a world where AI is advancing faster than our ability to make sense of it.
AI in Healthcare: Protecting Patient Data Without Falling Behind
Your doctor knows things about you that almost nobody else does. So what happens when AI gets access to all of it? Sandy Dunn has spent much of her career worrying about exactly that. She's a healthcare CISO, and her answer is calmer than you'd think: the things that can go wrong aren't new, it's how fast they happen and how far the damage spreads. In this episode, she and Mo get into why HIPAA has become paperwork that protects almost nobody, why the safest data is the data you never collected, and what happens to trust when AI is in the exam room.


Sandy Dunn is the Chief Information Security Officer at Knowtion Health, a cybersecurity executive with 20+ years across manufacturing, healthcare, and startups. She created and leads the OWASP Top 10 for LLM and GenAI Threat Defense COMPASS.

Mo is an AI security practitioner with over a decade of experience in application and product security, spanning hands-on engineering, program building, and cross-functional leadership. At Alice, he focuses on advancing how organizations understand, test, and manage real-world risks in AI systems, helping bridge security research, product, and emerging AI governance needs.

Building AI We Can Actually Trust
AI is moving from experimentation into production, and with that shift comes a harder question: how do we actually build systems people can trust? In this episode of Curiouser & Curiouser, Mo sits down with Laura Powell, Senior Director of Partnerships at LatticeFlow AI, to talk about what that actually requires. They cover why agentic AI is outpacing the frameworks meant to govern it, where the 80/20 approach to risk breaks down, and what biased training data is already doing in production today.

Securing Agentic AI: The OWASP Approach
In this episode, Mo Sadek is joined by Steve Wilson (Chief AI and Product Officer at Exabeam, founder and co-chair of the OWASP GenAI Security Project) to explore how OWASP is shaping practical guidance for agentic AI security. They dig into prompt injection, guardrails, red teaming, and what responsible adoption can look like inside real organizations.

Making Sense of AI: Trust, Scale, and the Human Role
Curiosity might be our most important security tool. In the first episode of Curiouser & Curiouser, Mo Sadek sits down with longtime security leader Julie Tsai to explore AI, security, and the human judgment that still matters most. Together, they cut through hype and fear to talk about what’s actually changing, what isn’t, and how we build systems we can truly trust.
